WiAOC2007 - Etienne Wenger Keynote Presentation

Chat Log Below

16:02:24 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Hi Moira
16:02:56 Moira -> Hi Horacio
16:02:59 Moira -> Hello all
16:03:18 Barb in Germany -> Hi Moira. It's been a while. I've come to listen to Cris
16:03:25 lee baber -> hi bob
16:03:27 lee baber -> hi barg
16:03:29 lee baber -> barb
16:03:39 Barb in Germany -> Hi lee
16:03:52 Moira -> Hi Barb :-)
16:03:57 teresadeca -> hi, everyone!
16:03:58 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Hello, Teresa
16:04:03 elderbob -> humming of the universe
16:04:07 lee baber -> Hello Teresa
16:04:08 teresadeca -> hi horacio! :-)
16:04:18 Barb in Germany -> Hi Teresa and Daf
16:04:20 lee baber -> Hi Daf.. I enjoyed that conversation/presentation
16:04:25 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Hola Daf
16:04:26 cris -> hi all
16:04:27 teresadeca -> hi barb!
16:04:34 NinaLiakos -> Hello everyone
16:04:37 cris -> I am back
16:04:52 Daf -> hello everybody
16:04:56 NinaLiakos -> Great job as always, Daf
16:05:07 Daf -> thanks, Lee :-)
16:05:12 Barb in Germany -> Enjoyed the presentation, Daf. It was good to hear your voice again
16:05:15 NinaLiakos -> Hello again, Perry!
16:05:34 Perry in Hawaii -> Hello Nina
16:05:55 jeff -> people in the skypecast, can you hear OK?
16:05:55 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Hello Nina
16:05:57 cris -> where do we see the slides?
16:06:04 Perry in Hawaii -> They sound good to me
16:06:10 jeff -> thanks
16:06:11 NinaLiakos -> Hi, Chris, so nice to see you here!
16:06:18 ChrisJohnson -> Hi everyone!
16:06:26 Daf -> they might send the links here, Cris
16:06:35 NinaLiakos -> How's it going in WA?
16:06:38 teresadeca -> hello, chris! how is seattle?
16:06:40 Daf -> sound is great
16:06:45 ChrisJohnson -> Pretty good
16:06:49 NinaLiakos -> Yes, the sound is perfect.
16:06:55 NinaLiakos -> Any job yet?
16:06:57 Daf -> I can hear Sus talking
16:06:59 ChrisJohnson -> can't hear anything (yet)
16:07:10 NinaLiakos -> Hi, Ramona
16:07:20 cris -> hi ramona
16:07:25 cris -> hi Simon
16:07:26 Moira -> Hi Chris :-)
16:07:29 NinaLiakos -> Hello, Simon
16:07:32 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Hello Ramona
16:07:43 ChrisJohnson -> Hi Moira
16:07:45 Ramona -> Hello Everyone - what a great welcome!
16:07:45 elderbob -> Houston, ...you had a problem
16:07:51 ChrisJohnson -> and everyone
16:07:56 Simon -> Hi everybody
16:08:06 NinaLiakos -> Hi Horacio, Elderbob, Moira, Cris....
16:08:14 jeff -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503628210/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:08:17 elderbob -> Hello, hello all.
16:08:29 Durff -> hi there
16:08:32 ChrisJohnson -> the sound is great - Vance
16:08:42 ChrisJohnson -> in the rain
16:08:54 NinaLiakos -> Still raining?
16:08:58 jeff -> skypecast at: +99001110016710620
16:08:58 NinaLiakos -> Hi Rubena
16:08:59 vance -> hey Chris
16:09:04 rubena -> hi
16:09:08 rubena -> back again
16:09:14 ChrisJohnson -> How's it going vance?
16:09:34 mailtruck -> hello
16:09:37 vance -> did you catch my intro?
16:09:44 ChrisJohnson -> weather is nice (but the snow is gone9
16:09:56 ChrisJohnson -> Intro was great, Vance
16:09:58 vance -> what no snow?? waaaaa
16:10:08 ChrisJohnson -> next year :-)
16:10:28 vance -> insha'allah
16:10:48 ChrisJohnson -> cool
16:11:23 teresadeca -> where are the slides, sus?
16:11:29 jeff -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503628210/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:11:38 teresadeca -> thanks, jeff
16:11:39 ChrisJohnson -> Hi Tere, answered your e-mail
16:11:52 NinaLiakos -> Do we have to change the slides manually? and if so, how?
16:11:53 teresadeca -> read it, chris. thanks :-)
16:12:02 jeff -> also on the Yugma at: http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=113825776
16:12:17 ChrisJohnson -> Sus sounds good
16:12:23 Simon -> Great map!
16:12:30 Doug -> skypecast audio is great. Those having "issues" with stream, may want to try it to listen
16:12:35 NinaLiakos -> I don't see the map. Help!
16:12:47 Doug -> you'll need to turn off the player you're using for stream, and enter this # in Skype
16:12:49 Doug -> +99001110016710620
16:13:34 NinaLiakos -> Sorry I can't advance the slides.
16:13:47 Barb in Germany -> could we have the link again
16:13:53 cris -> I am lost
16:14:00 cris -> which slide?
16:14:34 jeff -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503628210/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:15:15 Durff -> look forward to the recordings - daycare going outside
16:16:02 NinaLiakos -> I am really frustrated here. How can I start the slideshow? I don't see anything to click on to advance to the next slide.
16:16:46 vance -> have the slides loaded in?
16:16:49 teresadeca -> which slide are we in, pls?
16:16:50 Daf -> it is flicker, you only see the images, not a slide show
16:17:04 NinaLiakos -> but I can't change the image
16:17:09 vance -> but I don't know what slide he is on
16:17:12 teresadeca -> right, daf. but which one?
16:17:14 ChrisJohnson -> Vance, could you skype me the slides link
16:17:24 Daf -> jeff has the link
16:17:25 ChrisJohnson -> I can't copy it to my browser
16:17:26 NinaLiakos -> OK I figured it out
16:17:30 NinaLiakos -> counter-intuitive
16:17:37 jeff -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503628210/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:17:39 NinaLiakos -> Click on the image to the right (thumbnail)
16:17:47 NinaLiakos -> Wich slide is he on now?
16:18:09 Doug -> those that would like to "follow along" can access the Yugma
16:18:22 jeff -> would anyone in the yugma like to grab the desktop - I'm not able to juggle in slide management
16:18:30 Doug -> http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=113825776
16:18:33 Doug -> will do
16:18:38 Doug -> just a sec Jeff
16:19:08 jeff -> thanks doug
16:20:05 vance -> got it?
16:20:10 cris -> yes
16:20:11 cris -> thanks
16:20:15 vance -> sny_05
16:20:17 teresadeca -> this was the slide http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503627754/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:20:24 teresadeca -> model 2
16:20:37 NinaLiakos -> or model 6?
16:20:52 jeff -> model6
16:20:59 elderbob -> I cant find the Skypecast.
16:21:18 vance -> tools is o5
16:21:27 elderbob -> or MR Conference if there is one
16:21:35 vance -> yes model 6
16:21:40 vance -> hi bob
16:21:46 elderbob -> Hi Vance
16:21:51 Moira -> +99001110016710620
16:21:56 jeff -> skypecast at: +99001110016710620
16:22:04 jeff -> Thanks M
16:23:24 elderbob -> Thanks Jeff...Im in.
16:25:56 vance -> sny_08
16:27:00 teresadeca -> that was so nice, sus. and we'll meet again next week :-)
16:27:18 Moira -> you lucky things :-)
16:27:26 teresadeca -> lol, moira
16:27:33 michaelshade -> how do I see the slides? I've got thye sound & now I've found the chat - but where's the slides??
16:27:33 cris -> :)
16:27:46 NinaLiakos -> Describe the slide please Sus
16:27:53 jeff -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503628210/in/set-72157600229137116/
16:28:08 vance -> SNY_10
16:28:29 michaelshade -> Many Thx
16:30:07 elderbob -> In the case of Del.icio.us you can also bundle tags....
16:30:44 vance -> what does that mean?
16:30:55 elderbob -> Me?
16:30:59 jeff -> home is a feeling, not a place - virtual and otherwise
16:31:17 elderbob -> I think of webheads as being on boats on rivers....
16:31:32 elderbob -> Stopping at times to celebrate, explore, teach...
16:31:57 Daf -> hi Eva
16:32:24 Eva -> Hello everybody
16:32:27 Jeff Cooper -> i think of webheads as guys with hairnets working in the school lunch room.
16:32:36 Jeff Cooper -> but that's just me.
16:32:47 NinaLiakos -> I think of webheads as inhabiting a parallel universe in cyberspace
16:32:50 elderbob -> Can you see what they are cooking, Jeff.
16:32:51 Moira -> lol
16:33:01 NinaLiakos -> Jeff you are weird! lol
16:33:09 Jeff Cooper -> not at the moment... they're doing dishes... they're very hard working webheads.
16:33:36 Jeff Cooper -> hey... you're the one living in a virtual parallel universe Nina!
16:33:38 elderbob -> Oh no, webheads would either break the dishes are use paper plates.
16:33:46 NinaLiakos -> Perhaps so, Jeff!
16:33:58 NinaLiakos -> Speak for yourself Elderbob
16:34:19 NinaLiakos -> Are we on a slide?
16:34:39 NinaLiakos -> Having them out of order has been challenging
16:34:51 Jeff Cooper -> frankly... i think of webheads as a collaborative of professional educators all travelling down a wide variety of pedagogical and technological pathways, converging at times and sharing insights, methods, frustrations, and techniques.
16:34:57 Jeff Cooper -> but that's just me.
16:35:12 NinaLiakos -> This weekend we are converging, that's for sure
16:35:19 jeff -> I think all of us should draw a picture of 'what the webheads look like'
16:35:31 Daf -> we converged in Seatlle too ;-)
16:35:32 NinaLiakos -> We need one of those collaborative whiteboards.
16:35:37 NinaLiakos -> Indeed we did!
16:35:53 Jeff Cooper -> well... and in a wide variety of ways! i once started an article entitled "King of Multitasking"... and you have no idea how many windows/programs/downloads/tabs I've got running now!
16:36:10 NinaLiakos -> Hi, Nelba!
16:36:17 nelbaq -> Hi, Nina
16:36:24 nelbaq -> Is anybody speaking?
16:36:32 NinaLiakos -> Etienne Wenger is speaking.
16:36:35 NinaLiakos -> Click on Listen
16:36:56 NinaLiakos -> One of the icons, Real Player, WMP or the other one
16:38:01 nelbaq -> thank U , Nina
16:38:27 cris -> it's a never ending journey
16:38:49 cris -> can i?
16:39:15 jeff -> I think you're unmuted cris
16:39:29 Jeff Cooper -> i'm yugmaing with symington...
16:40:00 Jeff Cooper -> although his "freedom" program just encountered a problem... and he had to relaunch.
16:40:43 NinaLiakos -> Hi, Doug
16:41:00 jeff -> let me know when you're ready for yugma ds
16:41:01 Doug Symington -> Hi Nina
16:42:01 NinaLiakos -> Webheads: a living, breathing organism comprised of many elements
16:42:11 NinaLiakos -> like the Earth
16:42:12 cris -> indeed
16:42:33 NinaLiakos -> Spoken truely by the Catherder himself
16:42:54 NinaLiakos -> The mutual support is very impressive
16:43:07 NinaLiakos -> Webheads are a very supportive community
16:43:39 elderbob -> Oh, I missed Vances comments...my other phone range.
16:43:45 elderbob -> rang
16:44:12 vance -> all recorded eBob
16:44:12 jeff -> another set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/netopnyrop/503707601/in/set-72157600229247596/
16:45:02 elderbob -> Now I will have something to listen to late at night.
16:45:55 elderbob -> I hope someone will pick resistance to join as one of the subject areas in UnConference later today.
16:46:40 elderbob -> You can always tell webheads by the little wifi antennae sticking out of their heads..
16:46:42 NinaLiakos -> I agree, some people seem afraid of becoming a part of the community
16:46:43 vance -> when the person is ready the community appears
16:46:49 elderbob -> and their thumbs have USB ports.
16:46:56 CarlaArena -> I'm Carla Webhead Arena!!!
16:47:05 NinaLiakos -> Nina Webhead Liakos here
16:47:15 ChrisJohnson -> Hi Carla!
16:47:17 illya -> It is daunting to approach this community because it is so big!
16:47:25 NinaLiakos -> Of course not everyone is suited to every CoP
16:47:27 CarlaArena -> Erika and I have been doing that all the time...
16:47:29 illya -> But there are always people out there leading the way
16:47:30 Horacio Idárraga Gil -> Nice to see you Carla
16:47:36 Daf -> I am a proud webhead
16:47:38 CarlaArena -> trying to show the way to other teachers!
16:47:45 NinaLiakos -> BaW is an easy way to become integrated into the community
16:47:46 CarlaArena -> nice to see you all!
16:47:47 ChrisJohnson -> Hi Daf, didn't see you
16:47:57 CarlaArena -> Chris, so long!!!
16:47:59 Daf -> :-)
16:48:03 illya -> Thank you carla :)
16:48:05 NinaLiakos -> Without BaW I would never have had the courage to enter
16:48:06 ChrisJohnson -> yes, job hunting
16:48:10 ChrisJohnson -> still
16:48:14 ChrisJohnson -> but it's going ok
16:48:14 teresadeca -> i am a very proud webhead and have felt a part of the community for 5 years
16:48:39 ChrisJohnson -> yes, they definitely beat the f2f colleagues
16:48:48 perry -> I kind of became a webhead when I joined WiAOC 2005
16:48:49 ChrisJohnson -> you guys are much more interesting
16:48:49 NinaLiakos -> I was already blogging with my class during BaW06
16:48:59 teresadeca -> and then we started having f2f meetings with the lisbon webheads
16:49:10 vance -> hey when we get f2f it's even better
16:49:18 illya -> For me it was a very subtle process - I felt I've been growing into it int he past year
16:49:32 NinaLiakos -> Hear hear for webheads f2f encounters!
16:49:49 teresadeca -> right, vance. seattle is the perfect example
16:49:54 NinaLiakos -> For me it was BaW06 graduation: a formal invitation to join the community
16:49:55 Daf -> that's why our workshop is called "Becoming a Webhead"
16:49:57 ChrisJohnson -> The lipstick did wash off :-)
16:50:00 CarlaArena -> I still feel like a baby webhead. so much to learn!!!
16:50:13 CarlaArena -> oh, no kidding, Chris!
16:50:13 jeff -> anyone else in the skypecast want to chime in?
16:50:15 NinaLiakos -> even though I still feel inexpert, I feel included and appreciated by this wonderful group of people
16:50:21 CarlaArena -> we'll have to be together again!
16:50:22 NinaLiakos -> me too, Carla
16:50:25 ChrisJohnson -> sure, I'll chime in
16:50:28 Moira -> I went to Tapped In in 2002 and didn't come back til much later
16:50:38 CarlaArena -> the same for me, Moira!
16:50:52 NinaLiakos -> Everything was totally new for me in 2006
16:51:01 CarlaArena -> the first time I joined tapped in, I was lost, then in BaW I saw the potential
16:51:09 NinaLiakos -> I knew nothing about TI, wikis,...maybe I had heard of blogs
16:51:12 Daf -> I started interacting the same day I joined webheads in action in 2002
16:51:23 Daf -> neither did I, Nina
16:51:25 NinaLiakos -> Daf, you were born a webhead!
16:51:25 teresadeca -> same here, daf
16:51:26 CarlaArena -> me too, Daf!!!
16:51:51 NinaLiakos -> I thank Tere and Daf for gently welcoming me and my fellow newbies into the community
16:51:53 Daf -> I joined WiA in Jan and by March I had designed my first online course
16:52:11 teresadeca -> :-) nina
16:52:17 jeff -> ebob - getting echo from you
16:52:29 jeff -> chris,what's your skype id
16:52:33 elderbob -> Now?
16:52:43 ChrisJohnson -> aquarius_60
16:52:46 NinaLiakos -> It's impossible to meet everybody f2f without traveling the world
16:52:47 jeff -> still echoy
16:52:47 CarlaArena -> I feel very attached to you, Cris!!!
16:52:52 jeff -> echo-ey
16:52:58 ChrisJohnson -> I logged off skype
16:53:00 elderbob -> I dont even have a mic on.
16:53:03 Moira -> I was working online before goint to Tapped In to the Webheads meeting and continued to work online but came back to Tapped In later. As Vance says " when the person is ready the community appears
16:53:04 ChrisJohnson -> should I log on again?
16:53:15 jeff -> we're getting feedback
16:53:18 CarlaArena -> that's what's happening to me now, Daf....planning online sessions, presenting online...
16:53:25 illya -> In EVO 2007 I asked how to become a webhead. Teresa gave me an excellent answer- It's how you think of yourself- You decide - Teresa, can you correct me if I misunderstood?
16:53:26 jeff -> chris, if you want to chime in
16:53:48 illya -> sorry- misremember :-P
16:54:17 ChrisJohnson -> So I log in skype and get on this session some how? How does that work?
16:54:18 teresadeca -> ilya, i have to be very honest. i don't remember. shame on me!
16:54:23 elderbob -> I have it on now.
16:54:53 Daf -> me too, i would love to meet you
16:54:54 vance -> go bob
16:55:47 ChrisJohnson -> can you hear me?
16:55:48 illya -> Teresa -I thought it was a very good point though :-) It was extremely encouraging
16:55:51 elderbob -> Ok, thanks anyway...what I was going to say, was that the webhead community has a language ability above many other groups.....english speakers.
16:56:17 teresadeca -> thanks, ilya. i'm glad you felt encouraged
16:56:19 NinaLiakos -> Yes, the English of all the webheads continues to astonish me
16:56:23 elderbob -> They are mostly EFL
16:56:47 NinaLiakos -> Many of them have spent long periods in English-speaking countries though
16:56:48 teresadeca -> daf and i try to encourage our participants
16:56:52 elderbob -> adn because they are Language instructors, I think they are more willing to tackle electronic things.
16:57:05 teresadeca -> right
16:57:06 NinaLiakos -> Well, not all language instructors are like that!
16:57:13 elderbob -> Many businesses do not have those two advantages.
16:57:20 NinaLiakos -> We all probably have colleagues in this category.
16:57:35 ChrisJohnson -> I'm on skype now - user id = aquarius_60
16:57:42 NinaLiakos -> My colleagues have to teach in our multimedia center, and after a couple of semesters they become less wary of technology
16:57:56 Doug Symington -> webheads also seem to be "risk takers" and inspire many of us
16:57:59 teresadeca -> we are a sharing, caring and warm community
16:58:14 jeff -> skypecast at :+99001110016710620
16:58:15 teresadeca -> i'd say that we represent different world englishes
16:58:31 NinaLiakos -> Yes
16:59:02 NinaLiakos -> Hi Sus
16:59:12 NinaLiakos -> interesting conversation
16:59:13 CarlaArena -> so true
16:59:32 CarlaArena -> it's amazing!
16:59:37 teresadeca -> so do you think we are an example or a model that can be followed, etienne?
16:59:38 NinaLiakos -> We are special!
16:59:42 sus in DK -> Hi dear friends - I was too nervous to open the chat because my computer is really fragile
16:59:46 CarlaArena -> and we have very strong and close bonds!
16:59:52 Moira -> ;-)
16:59:54 sus in DK -> Multispace community!