WiAOC2007 - Stephen Downes (part 2) & Educationbridges mini-Town Hall

Chat Log Below

 
11:00:13  jeff ->  anyone in skypecast want to chime in?
11:00:15  aidenyeh ->  :-)
11:00:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Me, too, Nina. Yes, the Webheads way is "messy," but that happens because it's always in the midst of discovering and sharing. It hasn't fossilized (thank goodness).
11:00:35  Nina MD ->  Vance is our role model
11:00:38  Nina MD ->  He lets things happen
11:00:46  Nina MD ->  He doesn't panic
11:00:51  JoseR ->  lets or makes?
11:00:53  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Cheryl, I agree with you 100%, but there are plenty of ABC advocates out there!
11:00:57  Nina MD ->  lets, I think
11:00:57  aidenyeh ->  That's a good example, nina
11:01:04  Nina MD ->  He sows a seed
11:01:05  JoseR ->  cool
11:01:09  cris ->  lets, i would say
11:01:10  Nina MD ->  and lets it bloom
11:01:15  Nina MD ->  He has a lot of input of course
11:01:17  aidenyeh ->  as a matter of fact, I've never seen Vance panic
11:01:20  sendkathy ->  But netwroks are exclusive even when they are open
11:01:25  JoseR ->  node
11:01:39  cherylblizzardoates ->  Dennis, the other night Stephen answered a question about people who are not willing to move on and referred to them as system errors.
11:01:41  Dave Winet ->  Dennis: after all, although kids learn their first language informally and immersively, they still have  to go to school to learn a higher order of knowledge...it would b e hard to learn physics or math or even essay-writing informally...
11:01:42  Nina MD ->  He delegates
11:02:03  Dennis-Phoenix ->  "The new integrating with the previous": yes. It's a continuum, not a forward-moving, step-by-step line.
11:02:04  aidenyeh ->  That's true, cheryl, 'system errors' :-)
11:02:08  Nina MD ->  way off topic =messy
11:02:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I agree completely, Dave.
11:02:20  cris ->  I think open Networks are inclusive
11:02:21  cherylblizzardoates ->  give credit to SD for system errors!
11:02:29  cris ->  that's teh importance of a network
11:02:34  cris ->  they include people
11:02:35  CarlaArena ->  yes, dennis and dave...
11:02:40  Nina MD ->  I wonder if the messy model works better for some learners than it does for others
11:02:41  Daf ->  I never teach how to write something, I show different examples and let studetns find the patterns and un-patterns
11:02:43  cris ->  in WiA we accept anyone
11:02:48  paulmo ->  you are your connections
11:02:48  Nina MD ->  Everyone has their own learning preferences/style
11:02:51  JoseR ->  messy works for me
11:02:57  cris ->  we are inclusive,
11:03:04  cris ->  Messy, but incluisve! :)
11:03:04  sendkathy ->  connectionism is messy right!
11:03:05  Nina MD ->  My own preference is linear
11:03:07  Durff ->  the brain is a jungle
11:03:11  cherylblizzardoates ->  right Daf, we have to teach how to look for patterns and the un or NOT patterns.
11:03:16  Nina MD ->  but I have learned a lot in messy mode too!
11:03:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Life is often not "logical" and "organized" though part of learning and of living is the quest for order and the learning of "rules."
11:03:19  Vances ->  muted now
11:03:26  Durff ->  brain research from back in the dark ahes
11:03:26  CarlaArena ->  messy works for me, too, but some adult learners want more structured learning, nina
11:03:35  Nina MD ->  ENFJ here
11:03:48  CarlaArena ->  not linear, at all, dennis!
11:03:49  Durff ->  Hi stephen!
11:03:52  Nina MD ->  Vance must be a P
11:04:04  Vances ->  what's a P?
11:04:09  Nina MD ->  perceiving type
11:04:11  Daf ->  each individual needs to find his own order out of the chaos
11:04:19  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Meyers-Briggs classification.
11:04:20  Nina MD ->  Ps don't need early closure
11:04:20  CarlaArena ->  true, daf
11:04:22  cris ->  noisy
11:04:25  Dave Winet ->  Daf: that's good but I assume your examples are good ones... you're not showing them examples of bad writing, or maybe you make t hem decide which examples are good and which are bad?
11:04:35  Nina MD ->  They like to keep options open
11:04:40  elderbob ->  Vance is a CHE
11:04:49  Nina MD ->  J's keep TO DO lists
11:04:56  Daf ->  what do you consider good examples?
11:05:02  elderbob ->  Cat Herder, Extraordinaire
11:05:03  Nina MD ->  They are reluctant to change their minds once they've come to a decision
11:05:10  Durff ->  the Caines said the brain was like a jungle
11:05:15  CarlaArena ->  jeff, I have a neat room, but learn in a messy way!!!
11:05:16  Daf ->  I show examples of what there is
11:05:21  Nina MD ->  maybe! lol
11:05:23  JoseR ->  cat
11:05:32  cherylblizzardoates ->  same for me stephen, mine changes depending on whether I am at work or home or not work
11:05:34  aidenyeh ->  lol
11:05:35  cris ->  I have always been messy
11:05:37  Durff ->  I need a neat room
11:05:45  Durff ->  summer cleaning!
11:05:46  Nina MD ->  I need neatness
11:05:46  cris ->  when I am learning
11:05:53  cherylblizzardoates ->  I am ENTP or ENTJ
11:05:55  Nina MD ->  I have to clear off my desk before I leave everyday
11:05:56  cris ->  My room during exams was chaos!
11:05:57  JoseR ->  I missed spring cleaning this year
11:05:58  cris ->  :D
11:05:58  aidenyeh ->  oohh
11:06:03  Durff ->  I like messy
11:06:06  Nina MD ->  When I don't clear it off it's a danger sign--I am overwhelmed
11:06:08  CarlaArena ->  yes, cheryl, the same for me. It depends if it's home or work!
11:06:19  CarlaArena ->  totally different styles fore each...
11:06:20  JoseR ->  I am the same in both
11:06:21  cherylblizzardoates ->  isn't that interesting Carla
11:06:30  CarlaArena ->  it's fantastic!
11:06:43  Durff ->  but the learning is drawing in the prior knowledge
11:06:43  CarlaArena ->  maybe shaking different parts of the brain
11:06:44  Nina MD ->  The questionable part for me in my type (ENFJ) is the N (intuitive)
11:06:44  Dennis-Phoenix ->  See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Briggs> (scroll to "The Preferences").
11:06:47  cherylblizzardoates ->  I had not heard of that from others before, glad to be validatedd
11:06:54  JenMad ->  davey, baby!
11:06:56  JoseR ->  very narrow
11:06:58  Daf ->  according to Nina, I am always overwhelmed ;-)
11:06:59  dave ->  yo
11:07:02  Nina MD ->  In some ways I am very detail-oriented
11:07:07  Durff ->  hi dave
11:07:10  JoseR ->  hi dave
11:07:17  Nina MD ->  No, Daf, some people don't need that clean desktop
11:07:18  CarlaArena ->  yes, cheryl, much in common!
11:07:19  cris ->  :)
11:07:20  dave ->  lol
11:07:34  Dennis-Phoenix ->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyers_Briggs
11:07:35  Nina MD ->  I freak out if I have too much stuff in front of me
11:07:35  CarlaArena ->  wow, great question!
11:07:35  cris ->  I can resemble to that too Daf
11:07:38  Durff ->  hi mr. sessums
11:08:06  csessums ->  Howdy all!
11:08:10  Nina MD ->  Hi Chris
11:08:12  cris ->  hi
11:08:14  KonradG ->  Hi Chris
11:08:16  CarlaArena ->  hi, chris
11:08:17  cherylblizzardoates ->  Hi ChrisS
11:08:27  jeff ->  Chris & Konrad  - any PLE related questions for Stephen? or plugs for you upcoming session?
11:08:29  Daf ->  hey Chris!
11:08:40  Nina MD ->  Ni hao Venny
11:08:44  Dennis-Phoenix ->  back in a few minutes . . . .
11:08:47  dave ->  i might have a question...
11:08:49  venny ->  Hi, NI hao
11:08:59  dave ->  not certain about my connection though
11:09:13  Durff ->  an ingtelligent thought, dave?
11:09:19  venny ->  I'm out of date for the tools you use for this presentation.
11:09:20  dave ->  nope
11:09:23  csessums ->  jeff - no questions at the moment... am still trying to synthesize the discussion
11:09:23  dave ->  I'll type it
11:09:24  KonradG ->  Sure! All the info is here: http://webheadsinaction.org/node/168 and here:http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
11:09:25  JoseR ->  interconnections between networks
11:09:38  CarlaArena ->  If i'm into a PLE, then my students will benefit from that even if they don't get so far...
11:09:52  dave ->  are schools as they've been conceived till now antithetical to distributed knowledge?
11:10:05  Nina MD ->  Who's speaking please?
11:10:23  jeff ->  Kathy Shields
11:10:28  Vances ->  that's typical really
11:10:29  CarlaArena ->  teresa, it reminds me of Rodrigo, your student!
11:10:30  Nina MD ->  We are riding the crest of a wave
11:10:34  Durff ->  this is not a theory to implement
11:10:40  Nina MD ->  Maybe they will change
11:10:42  Nina MD ->  I changed
11:10:45  aidenyeh ->  they will be replaced
11:10:50  Durff ->  we already are implementing it
11:11:03  Nina MD ->  Exacctly
11:11:06  teresadeca ->  that's what i think, stephen. for me, reaching a couple fo students and making them change is a fantastci feeling. i can not expect each one to change
11:11:08  Daf ->  right, Durff
11:11:09  Nina MD ->  It's scary at first
11:11:21  Nina MD ->  Teachers are used to being the experts
11:11:25  CarlaArena ->  we have 150 teachers in my school and i guess 5 are really into web 2.0
11:11:27  Daf ->  it's exciting, Nina
11:11:31  teresadeca ->  yes, the first and the second rodrigo  :)
11:11:33  Durff ->  obviously if we are here, we are implementing all Stephen's theorries
11:11:37  Nina MD ->  It's scary for them to be newbies
11:11:46  Durff ->  he just cements the3 nomenclature
11:11:51  Nina MD ->  The great thing about webheads is the play-oriented mentality
11:11:54  CarlaArena ->  yes. the one that created the website, tere...
11:12:00  cris ->  5 is good Nina. Better than none I guiss
11:12:02  Nina MD ->  We play with the tools in our big webhead sandbox first
11:12:04  cris ->  guess
11:12:05  alicebarr ->  Always scary to be early adopters
11:12:11  teresadeca ->  right, carla. but there was another rodrigo
11:12:12  Nina MD ->  Only then do we start using them in our teaching
11:12:17  Durff ->  trailblazers
11:12:40  Nina MD ->  Scarier to be later adopters, I think
11:12:47  Durff ->  true
11:12:48  Daf ->  for adventurous people it is not scary, it is exciting
11:12:56  Vances ->  me neither!
11:12:56  Durff ->  then there3 are rules
11:13:03  Nina MD ->  We need to built familiarity and a sense of play
11:13:16  Durff ->  we all are playful
11:13:18  Nina MD ->  That is what sets webheads apart I think
11:13:23  cris ->  :)
11:13:26  Durff ->  from whom?
11:13:30  Daf ->  I am sure Vance has never been scared of trying something new
11:13:40  Nina MD ->  And for those who are hesitant and scared (me), there is a lot of caring support
11:13:41  Durff ->  him? no
11:13:44  CarlaArena ->  vance, scared? Never!
11:13:49  Nina MD ->  Sure, not everyone is scared
11:14:00  Nina MD ->  but for those who are, webheads are supportive
11:14:18  Vances ->  but did you BREAK into small groups?
11:14:18  Daf ->  I get bored of doing the same thing over and over again, so I am for risks
11:14:19  Durff ->  incredibly supportive!
11:14:36  CarlaArena ->  me too, daf
11:14:39  Vances ->  daf you're just radical
11:14:46  Durff ->  life long learning
11:14:48  Nina MD ->  Being a webhead is helping me to develop a liking for risk
11:15:05  Durff ->  seattime vs. autonomy
11:15:06  Nina MD ->  I am better able to confess to my students that I am learning along with them
11:15:29  Durff ->  an intelligent thought fromj dave!
11:15:44  dave ->  :p
11:15:47  JenMad ->  durff - :)
11:15:53  Durff ->  :)
11:16:03  Nina MD ->  Who is JenMad pls?
11:16:08  JenMad ->  Jennifer Maddrell
11:16:17  Nina MD ->  Nice to meet you Jen
11:16:21  JenMad ->  Hello!
11:16:25  dave ->  she's the cool one!
11:16:35  Durff ->  some people do rely on traditional, industrial age learning
11:16:46  JenMad ->  no ... dave is the coolest of them all ... (except for Jeff)
11:16:52  Durff ->  grasshopper
11:16:55  Daf ->  we always learned? have we all learned the same way? Even if we were taught one way, each of us has learned in our own way
11:16:56  CathyE ->  yea Durff- teachers
11:16:57  Nina MD ->  We need to provide choices to accommodate various learning styles, I think
11:17:21  Daf ->  teaching vs. learning
11:17:25  Nina MD ->  You can't force people to blog, for example: give them a choice to do a more traditional paper journal or dialog journal
11:17:27  venny ->  individul difference: learning style
11:17:39  Durff ->  the apprentice model was from the middle ages
11:17:42  venny ->  how?
11:17:47  Durff ->  originally?
11:17:51  Nina MD ->  me people are reluctant to "put themselves out there"
11:17:59  Nina MD ->  some poepl *
11:18:00  venny ->  mismatch between teaching style and learning style?
11:18:07  cris ->  yes Nina
11:18:09  cris ->  I agree
11:18:13  cris ->  but Why is that?
11:18:30  Durff ->  how do we overcome the mismatch venny?
11:18:32  Daf ->  teachers can teach one way, but students look for the way to learn their own way
11:18:34  Nina MD ->  There are bad people on the internet
11:18:46  Nina MD ->  We all are aware of potential problems out there
11:18:47  Daf ->  also f2f, Nina
11:18:53  Nina MD ->  identity theft, viruses, worms
11:18:59  Durff ->  many students are stuck on the seat timwe model
11:19:04  Nina MD ->  People want to be responsible and cautious
11:19:20  venny ->  Daf, balanced teaching styles theoretically
11:19:23  Nina MD ->  I have friends who refuse to open attachments (ever)!
11:19:23  Durff ->  back channel?
11:19:35  cris ->  I have found a greater sense of generosity online than I have f2f...most times
11:19:42  Nina MD ->  Yes, me too
11:19:48  CarlaArena ->  me too, nina!
11:19:56  cris ->  Webheads are the perfect example
11:19:57  Daf ->  If they lived in Venezuela, they would refuse to leave their houses
11:20:09  Durff ->  if one don't know from whom it comes, you shouldn't Nina
11:20:10  cris ->  people vomluteer to help you in your learning
11:20:20  Daf ->  My comment was for Nina
11:20:20  dave ->  like the athabasca initiative
11:20:21  Durff ->  verbs at end in German too
11:20:34  Durff ->  the what dave?
11:20:44  Nina MD ->  Yes, Lisa, it's important to be cautious
11:20:59  Nina MD ->  Nobody wants their computer to be hijacked
11:21:09  Durff ->  I tell MS that
11:21:22  Durff ->  they never consider consequences
11:21:23  Daf ->  you need to be cautios everywhere
11:21:24  CarlaArena ->  hi, laine
11:21:33  Daf ->  cautious
11:21:40  dave ->  stephen is referring to a conversation at cade about creating free courses for first year students
11:21:46  dave ->  at least curriculum wise
11:21:51  Durff ->  i didn't even see any type
11:21:56  Durff ->  typo!
11:22:04  dave ->  or that was the discussion that he was talking about
11:22:12  dave ->  http://davecormier.com/edblog/?p=106
11:22:36  Durff ->  athabasca initiative
11:22:45  Durff ->  what is it?
11:23:00  Nina MD ->  I suppose that is what Veronica Baig is involved in?
11:23:02  dave ->  that's what i'm takling about :)
11:23:03  Durff ->  on your blog?
11:23:16  Durff ->  i never heard of it
11:23:28  dave ->  me neither... until CADE this week
11:24:08  Durff ->  Open courseware at Harvard too
11:24:19  dave ->  started by MIT apparently
11:24:21  KonradG ->  If you'd like to participate in our (Konrad Glogowski and Chris D. Sessums) presentation (ask questions or comment) please create an account at talkshoe.com No need if you're just listening
11:24:28  Durff ->  I'm going thru Mahlen's somputer course
11:24:50  Durff ->  I don't think it's wearing off, but I persist
11:25:01  dave ->  very brave...
11:25:11  jeff ->  we will also simulcast audio from Chris & Konrad here
11:25:24  cris ->  agree Stephen
11:25:29  cris ->  couldn't agree more!
11:25:51  Daf ->  absolutely!
11:26:08  aidenyeh ->  thanks Stephen for a wonderful presentation. I have to leave now- it's almost midnight my time and i've got a class tomorrow morning. bye all!
11:26:16  dave ->  http://www.athabascau.ca/
11:26:20  Nina MD ->  Good night Aiden, sweet dreams!
11:26:22  cris ->  bye Ayden
11:26:22  Daf ->  bye, Aiden, see you around
11:26:28  dave ->  adn they've committed 300,000 a year to work on it
11:26:32  cris ->  your students project is wonderful
11:26:33  CarlaArena ->  true! Once, some of my bosses told me not to be so "creative"...
11:26:39  cris ->  I am commenting on it later
11:26:41  teresadeca ->  bye aiden  :-)
11:26:41  Nina MD ->  lol
11:26:42  cris ->  ;)
11:26:46  CarlaArena ->  bye, aiden
11:26:55  aidenyeh ->  thanks Cris, and hugs to all, nite!
11:27:01  Nina MD ->  at CTJ, Carla??
11:27:06  CarlaArena ->  yes, nina!
11:27:07  sendkathy2 ->  are we chatting here or in Talkshoe next?
11:27:10  Daf ->  me too, Aiden will write some comments today
11:27:20  CarlaArena ->  that was a turning point...
11:27:52  CarlaArena ->  I started to design a new path in my professional development...
11:27:58  Nina MD ->  Good question!
11:28:03  sendkathy2 ->  great question jeff
11:28:27  Nina MD ->  (although my cild is ot college material, unfortunately--but maybe at a distance?)
11:28:32  Nina MD ->  child*
11:28:47  cris ->  it does help a LOT
11:28:53  Nina MD ->  yes, Carla?
11:28:55  csessums ->  carla - aren't you taking an online course at some university? (wink, wink)
11:29:11  CarlaArena ->  yes, Chris...taking instructional computing 1
11:29:18  sendkathy2 ->  online courses can be very$$
11:29:19  JoseR ->  Will business still require a degree?  Or your PLE profile
11:29:23  CarlaArena ->  finished design and delivery of online content
11:29:24  Durff ->  Globalschoolhouse online
11:29:35  sendkathy2 ->  They still expect you to pay for the actual degree
11:29:36  Nina MD ->  The world of work is still set up to exclude people who have been educated outside of the fee-for-service system
11:29:42  Vances ->  what about dergrees for constructing your own informal learning goals and meeting them
11:30:05  sendkathy2 ->  You can learn all you want, you can be an expert in your field, but if you haven't paid for a degree then...
11:30:07  Nina MD ->  Entrepreneurs can be self-educated
11:30:18  Nina MD ->  Exactly, Kathy
11:30:35  Nina MD ->  but if you can somehow start your own enterprise you can get around that
11:30:36  dave ->  not true everywhere i'm learning
11:30:38  sendkathy2 ->  The hurdles are in place and they are time and money
11:30:46  Nina MD ->  Look at Bill Gates and all the other univ dropouts
11:30:47  CarlaArena ->  I'm curious to see where it will go, chris, the online course, for we'll be dealing with word, excel, etc...and it has been some time that I don't use them for teaching!
11:30:57  sendkathy2 ->  exceptions to the rule
11:31:01  csessums ->  the stranglehold of accreditation (self-preservation for unis)
11:31:02  Nina MD ->  However this is not a model everyone can follow
11:31:03  dave ->  meh.
11:31:09  dave ->  not so sure its that simple kathy
11:31:12  Nina MD ->  stranglehold indeed!
11:31:24  sendkathy2 ->  probably not Dave
11:31:27  dave ->  I've been wandering around talking to folks about whether i need a Phd
11:31:27  Nina MD ->  but accreditation helps propsective learners to make good choices
11:31:35  dave ->  most are saying... meh... can't really see why
11:31:38  sendkathy2 ->  what do they say?
11:31:47  Daf ->  right, Stephen
11:31:50  sendkathy2 ->  are they phd's?
11:31:51  csessums ->  dave -- need a union card, eh?
11:31:54  CathyE ->  But what about the "social networking" that happens on a college campus?
11:31:58  dave ->  some yes... some no.
11:32:02  josiefraser ->  Dave - it depends what you want to do
11:32:05  CarlaArena ->  dave, Im taking an online course, but it seems that I learn more with the webheads!
11:32:09  Nina MD ->  It depends on what you want to do, of course
11:32:16  Daf ->  I have always said I learned more with WEbheads for my doctoral diss than I did at the university
11:32:16  csessums ->  sing it carla!
11:32:31  sendkathy2 ->  The question is do you want people to call you Dr. Dave? lol
11:32:38  Vances ->  maybe WE should confer degrees
11:32:39  Daf ->  in fact, my diss was based onn what I learned with webheads
11:32:40  venny ->  Me, too.
11:32:41  Nina MD ->  BaW was the most stimulating course I have ever taken
11:32:43  dave ->  i try to get thme to call me that now
11:32:43  JoseR ->  I am taking a Read-Write-Web Class enclosed inside of Blackboard:(
11:32:45  CarlaArena ->  yes, Vance!
11:32:56  venny ->  I feel more happy and learn more from webheads
11:33:03  Nina MD ->  I cannot remember ever feeling the same enthusiasm in an actual credit course
11:33:09  Vances ->  it's informal learning
11:33:11  Nina MD ->  Yes, Venny, me too
11:33:12  Daf ->  :-)
11:33:13  Vances ->  just in time
11:33:20  Nina MD ->  It's like acquiring vs learning
11:33:24  Vances ->  networked learning
11:33:26  josiefraser ->  Ok - I'm audi. Thanks to everyone for an interesting session. See you shortly.
11:33:32  cris ->  closed gardens are not that appealing Josie
11:33:34  sendkathy2 ->  I am not discounting higher ed at all, there's much to be learned and the discipline can be helpful.
11:33:36  CarlaArena ->  the same for me. the EVO sessions go deeper into certain aspects than the online course i'm taking....
11:33:49  CarlaArena ->  and the dynamics of the session, too!
11:34:18  JoseR ->  adopted?
11:34:34  Durff ->  does talkshoe work with firefox?
11:34:43  Nina MD ->  K-12 in the US is drowning in NCLB
11:34:48  Daf ->  same in Venezuela, Stephen
11:34:52  JoseR ->  NCLB Wall
11:34:59  Nina MD ->  They don't have time to teach anything that doesn't relate to those stupid tests
11:35:12  alicebarr ->  Durff I am in talkshoe with Friefox
11:35:17  JoseR ->  There are subversives
11:35:34  Durff ->  I can't download it
11:35:42  Durff ->  i will try again
11:35:48  alicebarr ->  Are you mac or PC?
11:35:49  venny ->  I'm going to take a look at talkshoe
11:35:51  Nina MD ->  I need to take a break
11:35:57  JoseR ->  NCLB are hurdles, we learn hype jump quickly
11:35:58  Nina MD ->  I've been here for hours
11:36:00  Stephen Downes ->  Thanks everyone for coming, I appreciate seeing all of you
11:36:08  Nina MD ->  Stephen, thanks for a great session
11:36:14  Nina MD ->  Thanks to Dave and Jeff too
11:36:17  alicebarr ->  Thanks Stephen!
11:36:18  CarlaArena ->  jeff, so we can just stay here?
11:36:18  teresadeca ->  thank "you", stephen!
11:36:20  JoseR ->  Thanks Steven
11:36:20  Nina MD ->  I will be back later!
11:36:22  paulmo ->  Thanks Stephen
11:36:25  Daf ->  thanks Stephen, you've made our day :-)
11:36:27  JoseR ->  Stephen
11:36:28  CarlaArena ->  for Chris and Konrad?
11:36:35  venny ->  Thankssss, Stephen!
11:36:42  bobbi ->  Thanks, it was very interesting
11:36:47  CarlaArena ->  Stephen, faaantastic!
11:36:49  Chris ->  Thanks Stephen and all of you who asked such good questions.
11:36:52  Durff ->  it''a big brother, dave
11:36:53  venny ->  Thanks for the ppt file!
11:36:59  sendkathy2 ->  Thank you Stephen!
11:37:13  bobbi ->  hi dennis :)
11:37:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hiya, Bobbi! :)
11:37:37  Daf ->  hey bobbi!
11:37:39  bobbi ->  Yes, it was great.
11:37:46  bobbi ->  hey Daf :)
11:37:47  laine ->  he left i think-- he said goodbye
11:37:48  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I was here earlier, but had to leave and then come back.
11:38:05  bobbi ->  Glad to see you.
11:38:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes, Stephen. What an energizing experience your presentation was!
11:38:20  laine ->  good to know we can hear all of this later on
11:40:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  OOPS: Is that this URL?
11:40:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  http://oops.editme.com/
11:40:49  CathyE ->  I'm here too
11:40:58  Dennis-Phoenix ->  (Opensource Opencourseware Prototype System)
11:41:06  sendkathy2 ->  Hi CathyE
11:41:30  CathyE ->  hi KS
11:41:31  jeff ->  http://edtechtalk.com/
11:43:09  cris ->  sound is not good
11:43:12  Dennis-Phoenix ->  bad audio
11:43:12  cris ->  :S
11:43:13  Durff ->  what was that?
11:43:18  JoseR ->  I am game,  California
11:43:23  Durff ->  oh, not me
11:43:26  Durff ->  good
11:43:26  cris ->  :)
11:43:37  JoseR ->  How about in spanish  any takers to cohost
11:43:38  bobbi ->  We listen to the shows in our car on long car rides to Oman
11:44:10  dave ->  that's really cool...
11:44:34  bobbi ->  Yes, it's a great way to pass the time and learn things
11:44:39  JoseR ->  ESL/EFL channel?
11:44:45  cris ->  I am ...here in the UK
11:44:50  Durff ->  I'm signed in to talkshoe, but i can't open the next thing, is it too early?
11:44:56  bobbi ->  No, Vance puts it on his IRiver
11:45:03  CarlaArena ->  me, too, José. I'm from Brazil.
11:45:06  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Seems like there could be some very interesting input from South America, Korea, and China.
11:45:08  Durff ->  and pray that webcasting works
11:45:08  bobbi ->  and plugs in the car
11:45:23  cris ->  good. I was a bad student. I joined in Jan but never made to class :S
11:45:24  JoseR ->  never finished portuguese class:(
11:45:38  CarlaArena ->  really, Jose. I'm trying hard to learn Spanish
11:45:44  Daf ->  same here, Cris ;-)
11:45:47  CathyE ->  EdTechTalk has been the greatest experience of my life
11:46:06  JoseR ->  cohost on edtech talk on ESL/EFL
11:46:08  Daf ->  I got as far as sending my intro
11:46:10  CarlaArena ->  Just because we love you, Jeff!
11:46:21  Durff ->  the conversations in the community - yes Kathy
11:46:30  JoseR ->  I also teach Adult ESL in California
11:46:39  CarlaArena ->  oh, daf, I'm a little beyond in spanish...
11:46:57  Durff ->  but he does
11:47:09  cris ->  :)
11:47:18  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Are you developing a Cuban accent, Carlinha?
11:47:21  Daf ->  I was talking about the webcasting academy. I am sure you are much more advance in your spanish ;-)
11:47:39  cris ->  I used to sounds like a WiA
11:47:42  Daf ->  I am sure she is, Dennis :-)
11:47:49  JoseR ->  show me the dough!
11:47:50  Durff ->  the what?
11:47:55  Durff ->  yes dave
11:47:57  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Me, too, Dafne! ;)
11:48:14  CarlaArena ->  dennis, my accent is a mix of portuguese, cuban, colombian, equatorian!!!
11:48:19  arvind ->  hi all
11:48:29  Durff ->  hi arvind
11:48:31  jeff ->  http://educationbridges.org/
11:48:32  Daf ->  many venezuelans in Florida now
11:48:37  Dennis-Phoenix ->  The dough--where the money is for grants
11:48:41  CarlaArena ->  I bet, Daf!
11:48:50  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I can understand that, Carlinha.
11:48:54  JoseR ->  I thought of afterschool program with high or middle school
11:49:05  CathyE ->  Good question Kathy
11:49:12  Daf ->  and many more will be going there in the very near future
11:49:28  CarlaArena ->  i imagine...
11:49:34  CarlaArena ->  a pity!
11:49:40  Daf ->  :-(
11:49:54  Dennis-Phoenix ->  My Spanish is a mixture of gringote, Tarzan, Costenho (can't type the ~), and Mejicano.
11:50:03  cris ->  nellie in Israel says she is having problems accessing the skypecast
11:50:04  JoseR ->  Been there, haven't done that
11:50:09  cris ->  any suggestions?
11:50:29  JoseR ->  call directly to worldbridges
11:50:54  JoseR ->  great stamina jeff
11:51:02  JoseR ->  ha ha ha
11:51:13  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Definitely, Jose. How do Jeff and Vance do it?
11:51:22  suzannebarraclough ->  where?
11:51:22  JoseR ->  I think the tapped in guy needs a new mic also
11:51:41  jeff ->  http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
11:51:43  susaneb ->  had a lonng phonecall
11:51:48  JoseR ->  I think he broke it on purpose
11:51:50  suzannebarraclough ->  Thanks jeff
11:51:54  susaneb ->  what's up?
11:51:59  JoseR ->  He's a text person
11:52:12  alicebarr ->  It's working on VOIP
11:52:15  KonradG ->  thanks Jeff
11:52:21  arvind ->  are you going to stream the Talkshoe?
11:52:23  cris ->  EdTech Uk...I could go for that
11:52:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Thanks for the URL for TalkShoe.
11:52:29  Durff ->  what do you mean alice?
11:52:45  arvind ->  EdTech UK would be so cool
11:52:47  laine ->  talkshoe site kicked me out even after i created an account
11:52:57  Durff ->  me ttoo
11:52:58  CarlaArena ->  how about portuguese speakingEDTech, cris???
11:53:06  cris ->  also
11:53:07  JoseR ->  cool jeff
11:53:12  cris ->  I'm in :)
11:53:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  A great idea, Carlinha!
11:53:17  alicebarr ->  If you dial in on a VOIP connection (IP phone or Skype ( I have a free account)
11:53:21  cris ->  wanna go 4 that Carla
11:53:26  bobbi ->  when do you want dinner?
11:53:29  CarlaArena ->  you would be included, Dennis!!!
11:53:34  Durff ->  oh, i get alice
11:53:43  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Carlinha: :)
11:53:52  CarlaArena ->  but then we'd keep it as WorldBridges!!!
11:54:02  arvind ->  gotta run, will try to check in later
11:54:02  cris ->  indeed dennis
11:54:40  Daf ->  I can say beijinhos, and caipirinha, am I invited? ;-)
11:54:56  bobbi ->  sure !
11:55:03  Dennis-Phoenix ->  You know the most important things, Dafne!
11:55:05  CarlaArena ->  I think we could have a webheadworldbridges!!!
11:55:11  laine ->  looks like it was not set up completely -
11:55:19  pat ->  Konrad and Chris's show is starting in 5 minutes
11:55:45  laine ->  i assumed pat was related to him
11:55:46  CarlaArena ->  something for teachers...that way we could in a certain way reach their students!
11:55:47  JoseR ->  Jeff has found a way to bridge talkshoe
11:55:57  pat ->  yes, laine :)
11:56:00  cris ->  what about webheads bridging worlds
11:56:01  cris ->  ?
11:56:08  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Isn't it Chris G. talking now?
11:56:19  pat ->  Konrad G., Dennis
11:56:36  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Ah, yes. Konrad. Dziekuje!
11:56:38  CarlaArena ->  loved that, Cris!
11:56:39  CathyE ->  I love magic :)
11:56:56  cris ->  real content talks
11:57:03  pat ->  :) Dennis!
11:57:10  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :)
11:57:11  cris ->  about cuiltural issues and other topics
11:57:22  Durff ->  I cannot get into the talkshow
11:57:29  Daf ->  we can invite our students
11:57:42  cris ->  yes
11:57:53  Durff ->  biut they saqy worldbridges is magic - that's you jeff!
11:58:05  KonradG ->  Konrad and Chris will be starting soon (2-3 min?) here:
11:58:08  KonradG ->  http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
11:58:10  CarlaArena ->  sure, daf and cris!
11:58:17  cris ->  students bridging the eduworlds gaps
11:58:30  CarlaArena ->  my god...a brainstorming here!
11:58:31  pat ->  click on listen, text, talk
11:58:35  Durff ->  sounds like they have four minutes
11:58:47  cris ->  and I am serious!
11:58:50  Daf ->  I will listen from here
11:58:56  cris ->  I would love to be involved in such a project!
11:59:01  Daf ->  me too
11:59:06  cris ->  this is exciting
11:59:25  cris ->  we have a EFL programme in Salford
11:59:32  cris ->  teachers are not very engaging
11:59:40  jeff ->  about ready to yugma talkshoe
11:59:54  JoseR ->  cool I dig Yugma
11:59:58  jeff ->  on now