WiAOC2007 - Konrad Glogowski and Christopher Sessums Personal Learning Environments -

 Konrad Glogowski and Christopher Sessums
Personal Learning Environments - Exploring Professional Development in a Networked World 

 Chat Log Below

12:00:02  cris ->  but I could try to convince my boss let me into such project
12:00:10  JoseR ->  what's the yugman link
12:00:13  cris ->  if not I can do it anyway!
12:00:16  JoseR ->  yugma
12:00:19  jeff ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=114060411
12:00:24  cris ->  but with no students from Salford
12:00:25  JoseR ->  thanks
12:00:43  cris ->  no sound now
12:00:51  Daf ->  no sound
12:01:04  jeff ->  in skype?
12:01:10  jeff ->  or on stream?
12:01:12  cris ->  sound's back
12:01:14  Daf ->  sound back
12:01:14  KonradG ->  Konrad and Chris starting now here: http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
12:01:22  KonradG ->  Konrad and Chris starting now here: http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
12:01:29  cris ->  I am in the stream
12:01:36  jeff ->  major audio problem now
12:01:48  JoseR ->  We're back
12:01:54  cris ->  what the skypecast number?
12:02:03  Durff ->  nothing is insurmountable
12:02:03  jeff ->  it's about to expire
12:02:10  Daf ->  brb, need to get a medicine for my dad
12:02:18  jeff ->  and skypers won't be able to chime in, so would suggest listening to stream
12:02:22  Durff ->  so repeat?
12:02:25  jeff ->  or at talkshoe
12:02:37  jeff ->  if you can't get in to talkshoe, yugma is here
12:02:38  jeff ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=114060411
12:02:44  laine ->  do we chat here during the talkshoe?
12:02:50  pat ->  talkcast ID is: 32929
12:02:56  cris ->  no sound
12:03:01  Durff ->  ok, now majotr problem on stream
12:03:02  pat ->  you can also chat in talkshoe
12:03:02  CarlaArena ->  sorry, girls, kids fight!
12:03:21  cris ->  :)
12:03:29  jeff ->  best to head in to the Talkshoe if possible
12:03:37  jeff ->  if not, we can forward questions
12:03:46  JoseR ->  can't see too much in yugma
12:04:09  JoseR ->  looks like frozen screen
12:04:10  pat ->  agree, jeff
12:04:26  JoseR ->  there we go
12:04:45  CarlaArena ->  I'd love to be involved, too, Daf and Cris. Let's talk more about it!
12:04:48  jeff ->  hmmm, working on it
12:04:59  CathyE ->  I see it now
12:05:05  cris ->  yes! I think we should!
12:05:21  JoseR ->  Is that vista on the desktop
12:05:25  Durff ->  leaving chat so i don't crash again, though it probably was SL
12:05:27  jeff ->  yes
12:05:31  JoseR ->  cool
12:05:55  KonradG ->  Konrad and Chris starting now here: http://tinyurl.com/2x7rwo
12:08:21  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I downloaded TalkShoe but am not going to try to use it on the fly. Listening here is good enough for now.
12:08:32  JoseR ->  oops audio?
12:08:51  jeff ->  audio problems?
12:08:53  pat ->  let me know if you have any questions, dennis.
12:09:00  CathyE ->  my audio is good
12:09:07  pat ->  if you want to join in
12:09:09  JoseR ->  I can hear skypecast
12:09:09  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Will do, Patricia.
12:10:00  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Salaam, Hala!
12:10:11  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Ahlan wa Sahlan!
12:10:30  laine ->  how did you get into the skypecast?
12:10:46  moira ->  Ah, hi all, I can listen now and text here
12:10:49  jeff ->  no need to join skypecast
12:10:52  AndrewP ->  hi Hala, let me know when you want to meet online to discuss your upcoming event with the British Embasy in www.alado.net/webheads portal
12:11:03  Hala ->  Ahalan wa sahlan
12:11:07  jeff ->  suggest trying talkshoe or listening here
12:11:29  Hala ->  The British Council,Andy.Yes, I will email you soon
12:11:40  AndrewP ->  ok
12:11:46  Hala ->  Thanks
12:12:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Heady topics!
12:12:42  Dennis-Phoenix ->  WB, Hala!
12:12:54  JoseR ->  Jeff please post link to skypecast. I lost audio
12:13:35  Hala ->  I have many windows opened.What exactely the one whichi I supposed to be at?To listen and watch slides??
12:13:54  Hala ->  No audio here too!
12:14:13  pat ->  if you go to talkshoe.com, you can listen to the talkcast ID: 32929
12:14:19  cris ->  click on the real plyer icon 4 audio
12:14:42  pat ->  click on 'listen only'
12:14:43  CathyE ->  I have audio on Worldbridges A
12:14:50  laine ->  so, all we need for this experience is inside of talkshoe itself, correct?
12:14:54  JoseR ->  Sorry I was trying to aviod talkshoe I haven't set it up
12:15:30  pat ->  laine, if you want to participate you need to click on "listen, text, or talk" to be inside
12:15:39  CathyE ->  http://worldbridges.net/listen
12:15:57  moira ->  i couldn't hear here José so I went to Talkshoe and just clicked on listen - I  didn't set up an account now but will later :-)
12:16:14  pat ->  if you want to talk you need an account
12:16:19  pat ->  for listening only no account
12:16:22  moira ->  right Pat
12:16:38  pat ->  great to see you moira :)
12:17:08  moira ->  :-)
12:17:28  CathyE ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=114060411
12:18:03  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Queen's University homepage:
12:18:04  Dennis-Phoenix ->  http://www.queensu.ca/homepage/
12:18:08  JoseR ->  setting talkshoe account
12:19:21  Dennis-Phoenix ->  So an epiphany led to blogging, which began an odyssey . . . .
12:19:51  JoseR ->  over 50% downloaded.  The marvels of wifi
12:21:20  JoseR ->  started installation
12:21:25  Hala ->  My window freezes and I had to reboot
12:21:40  Dennis-Phoenix ->  An excellent action research site:
12:21:41  Dennis-Phoenix ->  http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/gcm/ar/arhome.html
12:22:33  pat ->  great, joseR!
12:22:34  JoseR ->  After this weekend my pc is set up to expand my PLE in a synchronous manner
12:22:51  Dennis-Phoenix ->  meaning-making vs mere transfer of facts: aptly put!
12:22:59  Dennis-Phoenix ->  What happened to the sound?
12:23:10  JoseR ->  did you just loose it
12:23:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Yes.
12:23:27  JoseR ->  I've been off for at least three min
12:24:09  Dennis-Phoenix ->  "Connection to server has timed out. You may be experiencing network problems."
12:24:14  Dennis-Phoenix ->  But I got it back.
12:24:21  JoseR ->  I see
12:24:21  Durff ->  now?
12:24:57  pat ->  JoseR, you are in talkshoe now
12:25:01  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Click on OK for the error message, then click on the "start" arrow on the Real Player console.
12:26:25  JoseR ->  yep
12:26:45  JoseR ->  listening to stream but got blocked for chat
12:26:55  JoseR ->  I'll chat here
12:27:17  Dennis-Phoenix ->  "relinquishing the role as an expert," "placing themselves in the role of learners": apt.
12:28:04  Dennis-Phoenix ->  The time factor is always a consideration!
12:28:32  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Ruth! How wonderful to connect here!
12:28:56  rvilmi ->  Hi Dennis. Great to see you too! What's happening now?
12:29:33  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Konrad Glagowski and Chris Sessums are talking about teaching and the Semantic Web.
12:29:52  Dennis-Phoenix ->  at the moment, action research
12:30:47  rvilmi ->  Can we listen?
12:32:58  rvilmi ->  Hi
12:33:01  CathyE ->  http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=114060411
12:33:48  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Ruth: "Can we listen?" — Yes. Go to the top of this page and click "Listen."
12:33:49  CathyE ->  http://worldbridges.net/listen
12:33:59  KonradG ->  any questions : those of you who are listening to the stream?
12:34:11  rvilmi ->  Thanks, Kathy. I'm listening now.
12:34:19  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Great, Ruth!
12:35:02  rvilmi ->  Do you still do things for Dave's ESL Cafe, Dennis?
12:35:19  Dennis-Phoenix ->  No, Ruth, though I'm still in touch with Dave.
12:35:43  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I'd like to find the time to revise some of my materials that are still online there.
12:35:44  rvilmi ->  Say Hallo to him for me please:-)
12:35:50  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Will do!
12:36:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Hi, Lee!
12:36:26  rvilmi ->  Yes. I've hidden all my old stuff and plan to delete a lot this summer, but that requires quite a lot of work too.
12:36:37  Dennis-Phoenix ->  It certainly does!
12:36:59  rvilmi ->  Does Dave do anything to his site now?
12:37:02  Dennis-Phoenix ->  The "Hint of the Day" feature was removed recently from Dave's Cafe.
12:37:16  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Oh, yes. Dave is constantly busy with his site.
12:37:25  rvilmi ->  Best to remove what you can't update well.
12:37:57  Lee Baber ->  Hi Dennis
12:38:00  rvilmi ->  Great. I still have some IWE courses, but spend more time painting now.
12:38:06  Dennis-Phoenix ->  I agree—and that was why the "Hints" were removed. The software controlling them was old and they had gotten unmanageable.
12:38:15  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Good for you, Ruth!
12:38:51  rvilmi ->  Take a look at www.writeit.to/ruth/gallery/ some time,
12:40:18  Daf ->  teachers do/should reflect on their teaching
12:40:24  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Congratulations on becoming a grandmother, Ruth!
12:40:37  Daf ->  that should be second nature
12:40:42  Dennis-Phoenix ->  (I saw the gallery/)
12:40:42  rvilmi ->  Are you still teaching full-time, Dennis?
12:41:02  Dennis-Phoenix ->  No. I'm on medical leave now. More about that another time!
12:41:05  rvilmi ->  Yes, being a Grandmother is WONDERFUL.
12:41:11  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :)
12:41:21  rvilmi ->  Do send me email, Dennis.
12:41:29  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Will do—and soon!
12:41:37  rvilmi ->  Thanks:-)
12:41:42  Dennis-Phoenix ->  :)
12:41:52  rvilmi ->  ruth.vilmi@writeit.to
12:42:58  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Thanks, Ruth.
12:43:14  rvilmi ->  What is YouthBridges?
12:43:24  Dennis-Phoenix ->  part of WorldBridges
12:43:57  Dennis-Phoenix ->  Oops. The phone is ringing. I have to go . . . .
12:43:58  rvilmi ->  What's he doing with young people? Something with Graham Stanley?
12:44:01  Daf ->  EVO is a great example of free online PD
12:44:17  JoseR ->  My certification progam was while I was teaching already
12:44:18  rvilmi ->  Hi Daf!
12:44:27  Daf ->  hi Ruth, how are you?
12:44:31  Daf ->  long time no see
12:44:38  JoseR ->  Online support would have been great
12:44:40  rvilmi ->  Fine, thanks, Daf. And you?
12:44:52  JoseR ->  An intern program for teaching
12:44:56  Daf ->  fine, full of work :-)
12:45:00  rvilmi ->  Yes. I'm busy being a Grandmother and an artist:-)
12:45:07  Daf ->  wow, that's great
12:45:25  JoseR ->  finding the intersection for both
12:45:35  rvilmi ->  Yes, I have a few online courses, and do language checking, but do MUCH less work now.
12:45:42  Daf ->  congratulations for both, Ruth
12:45:56  JoseR ->  I am taking a Read-Write-Web class now online
12:45:58  rvilmi ->  Thanks Daf.
12:46:09  Daf ->  where are you taking it, Jose?
12:46:33  JoseR ->  inside my walled garden LAUSD. 
12:46:37  rvilmi ->  What is a  Read-Write-Web class? Something like my online communicative courses?
12:46:53  JoseR ->  It is closed to our district teachers
12:47:20  JoseR ->  We are exploring Web 2.0 tools to implement in the classroom
12:47:43  JoseR ->  There are about 40 educators in two cohorts in a 6 week course
12:48:05  JoseR ->  We post a discussion board inside of blackboard
12:48:10  Laine ->  read-write web is a term referring to 2.0 tools as used in education --is that it Jose?
12:48:16  Daf ->  you should join webheads, Jose, and then join our BaW08
12:48:18  rvilmi ->  Are you describing a  Read-Write-Web class course, Jsoe?
12:48:22  JoseR ->  Yes Laine
12:48:27  JoseR ->  Yes
12:48:41  JoseR ->  Will do Daf
12:48:49  Daf ->  :-)
12:49:01  JoseR ->  I teach both 3rd grade and Adult ESL in the Evenings
12:49:10  rvilmi ->  So it's basically a course using forums?
12:49:15  JoseR ->  yes
12:49:21  rvilmi ->  Thanks.
12:49:25  JoseR ->  but there are a lot of barriers
12:49:31  JoseR ->  most are newbies
12:49:44  JoseR ->  This week most set up blogs
12:49:58  JoseR ->  next we are setting up RSS
12:50:13  JoseR ->  We are starting week three
12:50:36  Lee Baber ->  Hi all.. do we have a yugma or skypecast??
12:50:43  JoseR ->  talkshoe
12:50:59  JoseR ->  I lost both they froze on me
12:51:00  Lee Baber ->  ok
12:51:06  jeff ->  hello Lee
12:51:10  jeff ->  links on front page
12:51:12  jeff ->  no skypecast
12:51:12  Lee Baber ->  hi Jeff
12:51:13  Lee Baber ->  ok
12:51:20  jeff ->  go to talkshoe or listen to stream
12:51:26  JoseR ->  you can just listen in
12:51:44  JoseR ->  I forgot about stream duh..
12:51:45  jeff ->  jose, try closing and re-entering yugma
12:51:52  jeff ->  seems to be working from here
12:51:53  JoseR ->  I will
12:52:12  JoseR ->  Where is yugma link
12:52:19  jeff ->  front page
12:52:24  JoseR ->  got it
12:56:08  JoseR ->  student teachers need to practice
12:56:39  JoseR ->  unfortunetly some supervising teachers see them as babysitters
12:57:38  JoseR ->  I got certified in alternate program with my school district. The instructors were classroom teachers
12:58:12  JoseR ->  We meet on Thursday nights and once a month on Saturdays for two years
12:58:45  JoseR ->  We were called Interns
12:59:01  CathyE ->  My own kids only want they need to pass the test
12:59:35  JoseR ->  in third grade the test doesn't really matter to the kids